I repeat below the entire article from InfoMine’s Career Mine.  It is by Susan Kihn who does a fine job of setting out the facts.

Even with the downturn in mining worldwide which has seen massive job losses as a result of mining companies downsizing, putting mines into maintenance mode or closing down, it appears not all is bad for Geologists working in mining in Australia. Besides other mining professions, we know that there are a lot of Geologists who have lost their jobs worldwide and in Australia. What I thought may be of interest, was to see how this downturn has affected Geologist salaries in Australia.

The data used has been used exclusively from the CareerMine Salary Survey results, and I have shown a comparison between what Geologists were earning in 2012 and what they are now earning in 2014.

Geo SalariesAccording to those who completely our salary survey, it seems that those Geologists still employed in the mining industry in Australia are faring pretty well in terms of what they are earning and that surprisingly salaries don’t seem to have dropped. Actually, if anything can be read from the results from our salary survey, salaries in some cases have risen. According to the data, Geologists with less than 5 years’ experience are earning roughly the same in 2014 as what they were earning in 2012 with a median of AUD90 000. For Geologists who are more experienced, and who fall in the 6 – 10 year range, they are earning more now, with a median of AUD128 000 in 2014, in comparison to a median of AUD110 000 in 2012. For those with 10 years plus experience, Geologists are also earning more with a earning a median of AUD156 000 in 2014, whereas the median in 2012 was AUD138 000.

Although those Geologists who are fortunate enough to still have jobs appear to be earning reasonable salaries, one must not forget those who are unemployed, and there are many. Word has it that many Geologists who were based in Australia have left in search of new opportunities in other parts of the word, because of the lack of work in Australia. The cost of living in Australia is very high, so for the unemployed it’s not a good country to be living in. For this reason, it makes sense to leave in search of greener pastures and possible job opportunities. For those that remain and are lucky enough to still have work, salaries are still good, however one needs to keep in mind that Geologists live with the fear that they may be next to stand in the unemployment line. They are generally also overworked as they are forced to cover the shortfalls in employees that are becoming more and more obvious in many mining companies. Although salaries remain good, many Geologists are overworked and very despondent.

According to the Australian Institute of Geoscientists, at the end of December 2013 nearly 1 in 5 Australian Geologists were unemployed. Although it appears that in reality since then those numbers have jumped much higher. What has also been worrying is the trend that part time employment opportunities have also been drying up. Many of those that are now unemployed are being forced to seek work in other industries or outside of the Geosciences field. This could, when the industry turns, prove to be disastrous as the pool of Geologists will shrink, which will not be good for the industry as a whole. One needs to remember that from when a mineral discovery is found to when it will become a new mine, years will go by, often more than a decade. These new mines are what will provide employment to those in mining and many related industries. So every time a project is suspended and a Geologist is forced to leave the mining industry, we face losing years of knowledge and skills which could seriously impact the resource industry as a whole in years to come.

Even though it seems that salaries are on the rise, not all is sugar and spice for Geologists working in Australia, and the mining industry needs to protect these key players to the industry and try to devise ways to not lose those who are unemployed or have moved to other industries.


I have written extensively in this blog about the Alberta Directive 74. Generally I have been derogatory about the Directive. For example at this link I write the following:

That incredibly silly Alberta Directive 74 says that 5 kPa is the desired strength of oil sands tailings after one year.  Where they got his number from is a mystery shrouded in their ignorance of the reality of soil and tailings strengths. 5 kPa is still a fluid and not a solid.

Directive 74 says 10 kPa is the needed strength of oil sand tailings after five years.  This is based on the mistake assumption that tailings of 10 kPa strength will be trafficable.

Fact is that you cannot stand on 10 kPa tailings.  You still sink in or get stuck in messy goo.  No equipment I have ever seen can traffic this strength material unless it is made to float, as some equipment is indeed made.

Now once the tailings get to a strength of 15 kPa, it begins to act as a solid.  Not a solid solid, but at least not a flowable material. From lots of observations I can assure you that once the tailings is 15 kPa and has a 50 cm upper crust of dry and cracked material you can begin to move on it.  The plate effect of the upper crust of dried tailings helps distribute the load from your feet, so if you walk slowly and carefully you may traverse the mass.  But be careful: if you break through the crust, you will sink into the 15 kPa tailings.  It may be a soil, but it is still not walk-on-able.

I have always been of the impression that the 5 and 10 kPa requirements were intended to facilitate access so that you can close the facility.

Recently I have begun to wonder if there was not another purpose behind the regulation, namely that in the event of a dam breach, the tailings will not flow out and down to the Athabasca River.


You will have to search with Google for the document, DE-LICENSING OF OIL SANDS TAILINGS DAMS-Technical Guidance Document put out by the OIL SANDS TAILINGS DAM COMMITTEE. In that document they write:

De-licensing process: During the de-licensing process, a tailings facility transitions from a licensed dam to a de-licensed structure. The decommissioning and the initial period of active care are part of the de-licensing process. The process includes preparation of a design plan for the measures to be implemented for the transition, submittal of this design to the regulator, authorization from the regulator to install the measures and approval by the regulator, at which point the structure is de-licensed as a dam and becomes a solid earthen structure. During this process, it is necessary to demonstrate that the transition of a tailings facility into a solid earthen structure has achieved the objectives of the de-licensing process, that the tailings dam no longer meets the definition of a dam, and that it will not revert to a dam in the future.

Note the emphasis on solid earthern structure and will not revert to a dam, i.e., a fluid containing facility. The idea is that in the goodness of time, perimeter dike or dams will surely breach, but that does not matter, for the solid tailings will stay put, or at worst erode at the same rate as the surrounding landscape.

At this link is the document Guidelines for Performance Management of Oil Sands Fluid Fine Tailings Deposits to Meet Closure Commitments. It purports to tell you how to manage a tailings facility to achieve a solid mass at closure. Certainly interesting reading and a good guide to the many other documents pertaining to operation and closure of oil sands tailings facilities.

We know that the oil sands industry is trying many things to get 5 and 10 kPa. The easiest way is to add polymer into the tailings no more than 100 m from the discharge point. I know this works. In fact with polymer amendment it is very easy to get 5 kPa in far less than a year. And 10 kPa in less than five years. See my paper at this link for a much more detailed exposition of this idea.

Of course many other approaches besides polymer amendment are being tested. Cyclones, centrifuges, direct mixing with overburden waste, and freeze/thaw are also being investigated.

But the fact remains that Alberta, by plan or inadvertently, demands that the tailings be placed so that they are not a fluid for very long and that in the event of a dam breach the tailings will not flow to the river.

We have heard, and I have written about filter press tailings recently in the light of the Mt Polley failure. Filter pressing is held out as one way to preclude tailings flow through a dam breach. Commenters have noted shortcomings with filtered tailings. One example is Greens Creek in Alaska where they have used filter tailings management for more than thirty years. We recommended that because the site is in a very high seismic zone and because it was impossible to manage water in the very rainy environment. The tailings stack is lined, seepage is collected, and treated prior to discharge.

Another example is the Escobal Mine in Guatemala. We have recently installed wick drains to speed up excess pore pressure dissipation. We now add some half a percent lime to the filtered tailings to get moisture contents suitable for compaction. None of this is cheap.

I propose that we take up the contentious discussion anew of how to dispose of tailings so that in the event of a dam breach they will not flow out. Consider filter pressing—it works. Consider polymer amendment—it works. Consider paste with a bit of lime or cement—it works. Consider wick drains—they work.

Of course all these approaches are more expensive than hydraulic fill—at least until failure & flow.


The issue is should BC go the way Alberta has gone? Should BC regulate a minimum tailings strength one year and five years after deposition? Should we leave it to the individual mining company to decide on the basis of risk tolerability? Or should we just demand safer dams to impound fluid tailings?

Let us hear your opinion.


Philippe Jaroussky

Artaserse is an opera with five countertenors.  This is how opera was in the beginning.  Women were not allowed on the stage and castrati were in abundance.   Thus in the modern times, five countertenors are needed to produce the opera. An amazing production is the one I watched this weekend.  It is on a DVD from Erato and stars Philippe Jaroussky and Max Emanuel Cencic, two of the best modern countertenors. At first I was amazed and not sure what to think.  But then you suspend belief and segue-way into the music and theater.  For this is drama supreme and masterful emotion. Here is the story of the opera: Continue Reading »


To end the week, here are a few unrelated postings on the web about things mining. At this link, David Stockman of North American Business Development gives an interview on the topic Dry Tailings Stack vs Wet Tailings Pond.  Make sure to click on the rather obscure play buttons to hear him tell how Mt Polley could have been avoided had it been a dry stack and not a wet pond. At this link is a video showing Pascal Saunier and family singing.  Pascal is of Draintube fame and was one of the presenters at this week’s conference on Geosynthetics in Mining. At this link, available for download is RepRisk’s report on the Ten Most Controversial Mining Projects.  Mt Polley and Obed Mountain of Canada are included.  Here is what they say of Obed Mountain in case you forgot about this one: Continue Reading »

A little bit more on the failure of that tailings facility in Brazil from some-one on the ground:

The accident was in a very small mine close to Belo. It was an old tailings dam that was not  supposed to be in operation anymore. But they decide to pile dried tailings on top of it. I don’t have technical details about the failure but I guess it is very similar to a previous one I took you to see. At the moment of the failure, equipment was working at the same point. That’s the reason for the deaths. It is going to take some time for us to get the conclusions about the real cause of the accident. But, as soon as I get some more information I will let you know.

Thanks to this fellow for letting us know.


We have just finished the InfoMine Conference on geosynthetics in mining.  I think it was a success although I had better await the evaluation forms before coming to definitive conclusions. The proceedings will be available through the InfoMine e-Store at this link.  In my opinion, this is a magnificent collection of papers on a topic that has long cried for detailed, focussed attention. For the use of geosynthetics in mining is different to the use of geosynthetics in landfills and other civil engineering application.  The mining projects that involve the use of geosynthetics are orders of magnitude larger than any other category of projects.  The challenges are greater: there are few precedents; there are no substantive regulations; and the consequences of use and misuse are greater. Continue Reading »

Just got news of the failure of a tailings facility in Brazil.  I can find no English versions of the news.  There are many reports in Portuguese, and you can get them translated via Google.  They provide little information about the engineering causes or consequences, other than that at least three and possibly as many as ten are dead. Continue Reading »


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