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In the post just below this post (at this link), I wrote about a project manager for a consulting company who won’t let the engineers talk to the client.    He retains the sole right to communicate with the client.  I have never hitherto come across so adamant a mandate of exclusive communication. 

I have often managed projects; I have often been the mere engineer on the project; I have often been the specialist on the project.  As project manager, I always encouraged the project staff to communicate with the client.  As engineer and specialist I have always been encouraged to communicate with the client. 

Let us define communication.  Of course letters and memos from the consultant to the client are signed by the project manager before issue to the client.  That is simply common sense. 

Of course, we have always been careful to select those who attended meetings with the client.  They have always been carefully vetted and trained in appropriate communication and information transfer.  And of course, in any meeting with the client, the consultant’s project manager has the final say, at least one step behind the client’s project manager.  That is just common-sense meeting management. 

In many projects, there occur informal interactions between client staff and consultant staff.  You cannot stop people talking.  Of course the consultant junior who blows smoke and wafts weird in casual conversations with clients does not last long or progress far.  That is simply the way the world is. 

Those three instances of communication are however, but a pale shadow of the deeper communication edict that I wrote of in the preceding post.  I was probably thinking when I wrote more fo the following which I dredge from the past and a consulting practice that was just beginning and is now a success.  This is what they wrote and disseminated. 

  • All staff will be encouraged to develop and deal with their own clients in pursuit of the ideal that the consulting practice is a series of practices under a unifying and supporting umbrella;
  • Every staff member will stand on his/her own legs and not need the consulting practice for job security, but want to be with a larger group for the satisfaction and effectiveness of teamwork and participation in the type of project that a larger team attracts;
  • Work for fun and profit — work is not enjoyable or sustainable unless both objectives are satisfied;
  • Will pursue growth where growth takes/leads. The consulting practice is not in business to grow a business, it is in business providing professional services that staff decide to offer and that fill client needs;
  • Will diversify in association, discipline and location to better serve clients, diversify risks and increase the interest value to staff and gain international technology;
  • Will promote technology development and training and share knowledge and technology with the broad surrounding profession;
  • Will function as extensions to client offices as part of client team.

That is such a far cry from the follow I previously wrote of who said:  “I have managed projects of 800 people.  I never let the engineers talk to the client.  That is what project managers are for–to talk to the client. I am here to take over this project and make it happen.”  Or when his boss said: “Get the engineers involved only when it comes to analyzing the embankment stability.”

To further promote discussion of this issue, I repeat here parts of some of the comments from the original posting.

Comment 1:  I cannot agree more. Too many “Project Managers” from engineering firms think they know it all. In most cases they know little.

Comment 2.  As a Project Manager AND and an Engineer, I fully support the statement from this fellow. This is Project Management 101. There must be only ONE channel for communication between client and contractor/consultant. That channel is through the respective Project Managers. I have seen countless projects cocked-up through well-intentioned engineers and technical experts tweaking this and optimising that, to the point that the scope of work no longer fulfills the Client’s original design brief. Remember, even three-ring circuses have a Ringmaster. That Ringmaster is the Project Manager.

Comment 3.  Nothing wrong with bringing in a guy to “make it happen”. We have all been involved in projects with numerous meetings, everyone attending, with the outcome of the meeting is to have another meeting. The do’ers on the team generally appreciate a manager who moves things forward; the slackers on the team don’t like this since it forces real decisions to be made rather than having more meetings.

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“I have managed projects of 800 people.  I never let the engineers talk to the client.  That is what project managers are for–to talk to the client. I am here to take over this project and make it happen.”

The above is not a figment of my imagination.   It is a real statement by a fellow I met today.  

I am at loss for words to describe my response.  One young engineer confided to me: “I will not work for him.”

Another specialist asked: “How can you get good ideas raised and evaluated?”  

“Internally.” was the answer.

The sheer arrogance of this fellow astounds me.  His incredible confidence in self frightens me.

His boss said: “Get the engineers involved only when it comes to analyzing the embankment stability.”

My reply: “What is the point of a conceptual design done without the engineers?  What is the point of analyzing a concept that is wrong and unengineerable? Why compare impossible-to-build alternatives?”

My sympathy is with the clients beguiled by such over-confidence and misplaced arrogance.  It alll sounds good in meetings, but there is no substance to the advice or subsequent decisions.  Yet the client pays for all this consultants’ bullshit.

Maybe peer review is the answer.  At least that is my advice to clients: demand an independent peer review report before you belive or act on the advice of any consultant.  It cost lots of money, for peer reviewers are expensive.  Yet it is worth every cent. 

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No matter how much confidence you have as a client in your chosen consultant, make sure another, independent consultant as peer reviewer looks over the chosen consultants work before you decide, act, or commit funds.

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I am in Huntington Beach, California and thus California Dreaming.  Or at least living the dream that is Orange County—a bastion of white, Hispanic, and Vietnamese wealth, power, and privilege.  The Bentley now stands outside the small townhouse where once (fifteen years ago) there stood a cheap American car driven by old people, now dead.  The hue of colors at the pier is vast–although, thankfully, there are still young ladies in bikinis (of all hue) on roller-blades bedecking the streets.  As my son once said: “Dad, no man should be enabled to fall in love so often during a mere walk down the street.” (more…)

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Yesterday in the post just below this post, I bemoaned the fact that there is no general model or method out there to estimate the cost of mine tailings management.  That issue remains valid today.

I have however, been informed that there is a cost model for gold heap leach pads.  It is compiled by Fred A. Leonard.  He currently provide service via his private consulting practice in Winnemucca, Nevada.  Contact me for his phone number.

His model is generally available through CostMine

Incidently, if you want to learn more about heap leach pad design, construction, operation, and closure go to the EduMine course at this link.

Or come to the conference later this year on heap leach pads.  See this link.

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It costs between $1 and $40 a ton to build, operate, and close a mine tailings facility.  That is as specific as I was able to be when answering a question today in response to an enquiry from Australia.  There is a surprising paucity of data out there on the cost of tailings management.  We have details of salaries & wages.  We know the compensation of mining company executives.  We know how much it costs to engage and retain even the most expensive consultant.  But we have no data-base on tailings costs. (more…)

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If you read this blog, you will know that in the past four or so years, I have visited the Marlin and Escobal Mines in Guatemala many times.   (Do a search with these key words in the box at top-right to get all I have written about these visits.) (more…)

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Risk resilience is a term that I heard for the first time today.  The people who used the term assure me that it is not new, just not recognized in mining for its power. There was a conference last year in South Africa on risk resilience in mining.  There is a successful consultant on the topic in Australia. (more…)

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I am sworn to secrecy on this fact: a big mining company is about to layoff about half their head-office staff.  (PS.  In fact the number is to reduce staff from 130 to 30.) (more…)

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Categories are constructs of our imagination.  We define categories to aid our thinking, analysis, and decision-making.  It is easier to respond immediately if a stimulus fits a preconceived category, than to analyze afresh.  A rustle in the brush fits the definition of the category “Tiger in the woods; the tiger could kill us; therefore flee.”   Why analyze the situation to decide that the wind is merely blowing through the trees and making a nasty sound? (more…)

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This is a picture of the electric car charging station at the local MEC store.  Never seen a car here, in spite of the many outdoors-men who shop for expensive clothes and gear to climb mountains, ride bikes, and hike in the woods.

Here are the four e-resources that I found in a search of the first twenty pages of a Google-search using the terms mine energy balance: (more…)

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